Pure LBBG or LBBGxEUHG?

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Kent Olsen
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Pure LBBG or LBBGxEUHG?

Post by Kent Olsen » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:42 am

In Denmark we have a gull which has been returning to our local harbour for several years. Originally thought to be a graelsii or “Dutch intergrade”, but as the legs are at their most only slightly yellow I have a nagging feeling that it may be a hybrid.

It is wearing a metal ring, but we have not been able to read it. I have no experience with LBBG x Herring Gull, but what do you think of this bird - LBBG or hybrid?

http://gulldk.blogspot.dk/2010/11/lesse ... uscus.html
http://gulldk.blogspot.dk/2010/09/lesse ... us_17.html
http://gulldk.blogspot.dk/2010/09/lesse ... us_10.html
http://gulldk.blogspot.dk/2010/09/lesse ... us_01.html
http://gulldk.blogspot.dk/2009/08/briti ... us_25.html

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Kent

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Theo Muusse
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Re: Pure LBBG or LBBGxEUHG?

Post by Theo Muusse » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:00 pm

The double moult wave in the september pictures is interesting.
P10 does show a small mirror and p9 seems to miss a mirror.
This combination does not suite a hybrid between graellsii and argentatus I think.
The upperpart colour should point to graellsii / dutch intergrade albeit not a normal one.

Theo

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Re: Pure LBBG or LBBGxEUHG?

Post by lou bertalan » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:25 pm

hi kent,

i don't have any personal experience with these hybrids but to me it looks very like one. why is a lacking p9 mirror indicative of pure graellsii versus a hybrid, theo?
flesh coloured legs and somewhat large tertial crescents to me look very hybridish.

lou

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