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Re: 1st cycle Larus cachinnans

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:07 pm
by JanJ
Since the link to Hans bird (same individual as mine here), doesen´t work I thought I´d put a working link up.

https://artportalen.se/Mobile/Image/1184864

Jan

Re: 1st cycle Larus cachinnans

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:36 am
by lou bertalan
hi jan,

good to have the links to hans' pics in the new svalan 'plumage' as well. recently i could take pics of many odd cachis and michas on vadu beach, romania, by mid to end of august. hopefully i'll get some time to process them and link them here. a small taste:
8 2015.08.14 vadu lb advanced 2cy cach.JPG
8 2015.08.14 vadu lb advanced 2cy cach.JPG (166.09 KiB) Viewed 10709 times
8 2015.08.14 vadu lb 0063 prob. odd michahellis.JPG
8 2015.08.14 vadu lb 0063 prob. odd michahellis.JPG (197.72 KiB) Viewed 10709 times
8 2015.08.14 vadu lb 0311 very typical mich.JPG
8 2015.08.14 vadu lb 0311 very typical mich.JPG (634.15 KiB) Viewed 10709 times
8 2015.08.14 vadu lb 0321 but see how different it looks from behind.JPG
8 2015.08.14 vadu lb 0321 but see how different it looks from behind.JPG (450.61 KiB) Viewed 10709 times
8 2015.08.14 vadu lb 0443 poss. odd cachinnans.JPG
8 2015.08.14 vadu lb 0443 poss. odd cachinnans.JPG (568.12 KiB) Viewed 10709 times
8 2015.08.15 vadu lb 0468 odd 1cy cachi with 2nd gen. type lower tertials and inner coverts.JPG
8 2015.08.15 vadu lb 0468 odd 1cy cachi with 2nd gen. type lower tertials and inner coverts.JPG (1005.34 KiB) Viewed 10709 times
cheers

lou

Re: 1st cycle Larus cachinnans

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:27 pm
by lou bertalan
i think the original bird is a michahellis with a cachi-tail. covert pattern and head mask are very micha like as is the rest of the covert pattern with broad white fringes. hans' pics on svalan (see post only confirm my long felt suspicions. this is not a cachinnans: download/file.php?id=3391
median bands like in cachi: https://artportalen.se/MediaLibrary/bir ... 420237.jpg

Re: 1st cycle Larus cachinnans

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:37 pm
by JanJ
Yes I see Lou, turned out to be quite a controversial gull indeed. :o
In my mind - when I saw it, there where not much of a doubt i real life. The only thing I did consider was the tertial pattern, however, not such a big problem after all imo. A few more pic below.

JanJ