An old friend from Poland
Dear all:
Today 11.10.2013 at Meirás Beach, Valdoviño, A Coruña, NW Spain (43º36´07´´N – 08º11´33´´W) an old polish friend was resting on the beach.
It seems ok for cachinnans, but I think it´s head is a bit angled and squared, Strong bill and with a dark spot in front of the eye. Any opinion from more trained eyes, please.
All the best.
Antonio
Antonio Gutierrez
totoguti@mundo-r.com
http://gaviotasyanillas.blogspot.com/
Today 11.10.2013 at Meirás Beach, Valdoviño, A Coruña, NW Spain (43º36´07´´N – 08º11´33´´W) an old polish friend was resting on the beach.
It seems ok for cachinnans, but I think it´s head is a bit angled and squared, Strong bill and with a dark spot in front of the eye. Any opinion from more trained eyes, please.
All the best.
Antonio
Antonio Gutierrez
totoguti@mundo-r.com
http://gaviotasyanillas.blogspot.com/
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Re: An old friend from Poland
hi antonio,
it's true, somethimg is odd for it being a cachinnans. there might be some argentatus blood in it accounting for the short and somewhat high bill, head shape and contrasting pattern in GC (2nd gen). and if i look at the scapulars from february - they also look wrong for pure 2nd gen. cachinnans scaps. so, probably a F1 or F2 hybrid with tatus.
greets,
lou
it's true, somethimg is odd for it being a cachinnans. there might be some argentatus blood in it accounting for the short and somewhat high bill, head shape and contrasting pattern in GC (2nd gen). and if i look at the scapulars from february - they also look wrong for pure 2nd gen. cachinnans scaps. so, probably a F1 or F2 hybrid with tatus.
greets,
lou
Re: An old friend from Poland
Hi Lou:
Thanks a lot for your experienced opinion.
First time I saw this bird in a photograph (was sighted In Huelva, Southern Spain on 13. sept.2012) it had some argentatus " smell". Head and GC does not seems fine...
All the best
Antonio
Thanks a lot for your experienced opinion.
First time I saw this bird in a photograph (was sighted In Huelva, Southern Spain on 13. sept.2012) it had some argentatus " smell". Head and GC does not seems fine...
All the best
Antonio
Re: An old friend from Poland
Hi Antonio,
in which colony exactly was this bird born?
in which colony exactly was this bird born?
Re: An old friend from Poland
Hi Peter:
It was ringed in Kozielno mix......
It was ringed in Kozielno mix......
Re: An old friend from Poland
Hi,
Kozielno is in the southwest of Poland, close to the border with Czech Republic.
As you can see in figure 1 of this paper, this colony is far from the main contact zone and holds mainly Caspian Gulls.
Kozielno is in the southwest of Poland, close to the border with Czech Republic.
As you can see in figure 1 of this paper, this colony is far from the main contact zone and holds mainly Caspian Gulls.
Re: An old friend from Poland
Hi Again Peter:
Would be possible to see this papper?. Available for members only....
totoguti@mundo-r.com
I thought kozielno was a mixed colony....
Would be possible to see this papper?. Available for members only....
totoguti@mundo-r.com
I thought kozielno was a mixed colony....
Re: An old friend from Poland
The paper is publicly available.
Just ignore the "download pdf" request.
Just ignore the "download pdf" request.
Re: An old friend from Poland
Hi All:
Another sighting of this odd Polish bird from Kozielno. Today 11.12.13 at Pantin beach, Valdoviño, A Coruña, NW Spain (43º38´20´´N – 08º07´04´´W). All the best
Antonio
Another sighting of this odd Polish bird from Kozielno. Today 11.12.13 at Pantin beach, Valdoviño, A Coruña, NW Spain (43º38´20´´N – 08º07´04´´W). All the best
Antonio