Mirror on P8

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Leon Edelaar
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Mirror on P8

Post by Leon Edelaar » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:44 pm

I have never seen a (small) mirror on both P8 in a Herring gull.
I haven't found an example on the web.
Has anyone seen this before or is this really rare?

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leon edelaar
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lou bertalan
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Re: Mirror on P8

Post by lou bertalan » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:10 pm

hi leon,

it's not common but sometimes seen in herring gull. in this ind. (photo chris gibbins) the p8 mirror is even larger: http://www.birdforum.net/attachment.php ... 1293742879

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Re: Mirror on P8

Post by adriaens » Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:05 pm

I have only ever seen this in Iceland, where I suspect it is a sign of Glaucous Gull influence.
Was Chris' photo taken in the north of Scotland in winter?

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Re: Mirror on P8

Post by lou bertalan » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:32 pm

adriaens wrote:I have only ever seen this in Iceland, where I suspect it is a sign of Glaucous Gull influence.
Was Chris' photo taken in the north of Scotland in winter?
no, it's a record shot of a bird wintering in bucharest last winter. one of 3 record shots of herring gull for that country :lol: :oops:

are there proven hybrids glaucous x iceland gull????

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Re: Mirror on P8

Post by adriaens » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:55 am

I was talking about Iceland, the country, Lou, not the bird...

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Re: Mirror on P8

Post by lou bertalan » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:21 am

adriaens wrote:I was talking about Iceland, the country, Lou, not the bird...
ouff :oops:

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Re: Mirror on P8

Post by Herman Bouman » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:13 pm

Today this bird was present at my local patch (Houten, Utrecht, the Netherlands). All white p10, small marking on p9 and a mirror on p8. Not a very common primary pattern to me.
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