Hi All:
Any comment about this strange gull will be very apreciated
This birds was observed on 3 and 4 January 2012 in NW Spain.
An odd larus fuscus graellsii.... An hybrid..... A presumed Larus michahellis atlantis.....
I have experience with the dark, and small NW Spanish michahellis called "lusitanius" but I have no experience with L. m. atlantis and this is a sedentary ssp....
http://gaviotasyanillas.blogspot.com/20 ... antis.html
In Spanish.....
Thanks in advance
Antonio
Any comment about this odd gull, please.
Re: Any comment about this odd gull, please.
Hello Antonio.
Nice and interesting (not fully adult) gull there! As long as someone doesn´t come along saying it´s a LBBG, the atlantis theory is quite good imo. The pattern of the headstreaking, with less on the nape and the fact that id doesn´t reach below the head looks good. However, the head pattern alone does not seal the identification of atlantis, since a few Herrings almost match the pattern (pers obs). In Antonius pic the obvious darker mantel alongside YLG could match a graellsii - but can it be excluded. There´s also something about the build and short-legged impression that bring minds to atlantis. We´ll see.
From Steve Blain Last year:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/steveblain/page2/
JanJ
Nice and interesting (not fully adult) gull there! As long as someone doesn´t come along saying it´s a LBBG, the atlantis theory is quite good imo. The pattern of the headstreaking, with less on the nape and the fact that id doesn´t reach below the head looks good. However, the head pattern alone does not seal the identification of atlantis, since a few Herrings almost match the pattern (pers obs). In Antonius pic the obvious darker mantel alongside YLG could match a graellsii - but can it be excluded. There´s also something about the build and short-legged impression that bring minds to atlantis. We´ll see.
From Steve Blain Last year:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/steveblain/page2/
JanJ
Re: Any comment about this odd gull, please.
Hi again:
New pics of this interesting and odd bird... This new pics were taken yesterday (15 January 2012).
Slightly paler than graellsii and slightly darker than our michahellis (NW Spain) ....
I don´t know how a mich x fuscus hibrid could be at this age......
http://gaviotasyanillas.blogspot.com/20 ... ellis.html
All the best
Antonio
New pics of this interesting and odd bird... This new pics were taken yesterday (15 January 2012).
Slightly paler than graellsii and slightly darker than our michahellis (NW Spain) ....
I don´t know how a mich x fuscus hibrid could be at this age......
http://gaviotasyanillas.blogspot.com/20 ... ellis.html
All the best
Antonio
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Re: Any comment about this odd gull, please.
It does look good for Azorean António, another one as been reported from the NW Portuguese coast this week, a presumed 3 winter http://www.flickr.com/photos/8793530@N0 ... 22203@N00/
un saludo,
Rui
un saludo,
Rui
Re: Any comment about this odd gull, please.
Hi again:
Today 20.january.2012 at Pantín beach, Valdoviño, A Coruña, NW Spain (43º38´20´´N – 08º07´04´´W) , another odd gull; another and different bird resembling Larus michahellis atlantis.... A very bad light conditions. have you seen "often" pale mantled, short legged, dark capped LBBGLLs ??.
http://gaviotasyanillas.blogspot.com/20 ... 12012.html
All the best
Antonio
Today 20.january.2012 at Pantín beach, Valdoviño, A Coruña, NW Spain (43º38´20´´N – 08º07´04´´W) , another odd gull; another and different bird resembling Larus michahellis atlantis.... A very bad light conditions. have you seen "often" pale mantled, short legged, dark capped LBBGLLs ??.
http://gaviotasyanillas.blogspot.com/20 ... 12012.html
All the best
Antonio