Hello.
This pictures were taking in Madrid a week ago.
Any comment are welcome.
Regards
Delfín
YLG or HG
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ola delfín,
your bird strongly reminds me of this YLG from the end of july from mamaia: http://www.lou.bertalan.de/gulls/pic/vh/up_0126.jpg (http://www.lou.bertalan.de/gulls/m_phi. ... llis%201cy)
much white in coverts and a complete patterned gc-row is possible in michahellis as are the halfmoonlike notches in tertials.
but it has the face (dark and streaky) and the freshness of a lesser black-back. so i guess it is rather a graellsii, like the other gulls in the pic. no moulted scaps would be enourmously late for a spanish mich. but i've seen 1 atlantis on lanzarote being complete juvenile at the end of august last year.
best,
lou
your bird strongly reminds me of this YLG from the end of july from mamaia: http://www.lou.bertalan.de/gulls/pic/vh/up_0126.jpg (http://www.lou.bertalan.de/gulls/m_phi. ... llis%201cy)
much white in coverts and a complete patterned gc-row is possible in michahellis as are the halfmoonlike notches in tertials.
but it has the face (dark and streaky) and the freshness of a lesser black-back. so i guess it is rather a graellsii, like the other gulls in the pic. no moulted scaps would be enourmously late for a spanish mich. but i've seen 1 atlantis on lanzarote being complete juvenile at the end of august last year.
best,
lou
Re: YLG or HG
Hi all:
Remember that when we are speaking about "mich" we are thinking in michahellis michahellis usually, but our North and NW "Lusies" are as I Always say "Fifty herring fifty graellsii" ; -)
And they moult one month later than "mich" more or less.
Look at the attached bird ringed in Galicia (NW Spain) it has a very dark face, small and delicate body.... resembling fuscus. Another birds resembles herrings.
There are 3 ringed "lusi" birds sighted in central Spain in 2011-12 (first inland sightings in Spain....).
I think "Lusi" is another good option, but....
All the best.
Antonio.
Remember that when we are speaking about "mich" we are thinking in michahellis michahellis usually, but our North and NW "Lusies" are as I Always say "Fifty herring fifty graellsii" ; -)
And they moult one month later than "mich" more or less.
Look at the attached bird ringed in Galicia (NW Spain) it has a very dark face, small and delicate body.... resembling fuscus. Another birds resembles herrings.
There are 3 ringed "lusi" birds sighted in central Spain in 2011-12 (first inland sightings in Spain....).
I think "Lusi" is another good option, but....
All the best.
Antonio.
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Thank you all for your opinions.
I am agree with Antonio that cam be a Lusitanicus.
Any more comments are welcome.
Delfín
I am agree with Antonio that cam be a Lusitanicus.
Any more comments are welcome.
Delfín
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Rui_Caratão
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Re: YLG or HG
Another of those presumed late "Lusies" from this week in Lisbon, although the tertial pattern is new to me, I have seen plain edges reaching the tertials, notched ones, but never this pattern...
best regards,
Rui
best regards,
Rui
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Hi Delfín.
At first sight it looks like a Herring, but a slender - somewhat long-winged one. Rather unmarked underparts suggest other than Herring, altough a few Herring´s can show sutch unmarked underparts. So, what about lusitanius Yellow-legged?
JanJ
At first sight it looks like a Herring, but a slender - somewhat long-winged one. Rather unmarked underparts suggest other than Herring, altough a few Herring´s can show sutch unmarked underparts. So, what about lusitanius Yellow-legged?
JanJ