1 ring and 2 LWHG for Id

[Rui_Caratão]

Can anyone help me to figure out were this ring came from.
CCPM or CC:PM?? Could it be finnish.....



This week I saw 2 large witish gulls at my gulling spot, the first one, I would call it a 1st winter male Ylg, with worn primary feathers. Not much different from the ringed individual.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g279/ ... 020316.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g279/ ... 020320.jpg

The second one...I suppose could fit the endless variation on 2nd winter Ylg too. But its a wild guess merely based on chance
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g279/ ... 020280.jpg

all the best,
Rui

[Rui_Caratão]

Another photo of the second gull, grey scap tone seemed to match lbbg present. Could it be leucism?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-02ndABkfOIA/T ... resize.jpg


Another unidentified 2nd winter gull. A very pale but well patterned individual should favor Yllg, right? But structure was diferent from what I am used on Ylg, with an heavy belly and not so slender at the rear.


Could 2nd winter Ylg show pale primaries on both webs???
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-K4nTt3m1Gmw/T ... resize.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-EYcPCkVU6pw/T ... resize.JPG

regards,
Rui