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YLG or HG

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:34 pm
by paseriformes
Hello.
This pictures were taking in Madrid a week ago.
Any comment are welcome.
Regards
Delfín

Re: YLG or HG

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:27 pm
by lou bertalan
ola delfín,

your bird strongly reminds me of this YLG from the end of july from mamaia: http://www.lou.bertalan.de/gulls/pic/vh/up_0126.jpg (http://www.lou.bertalan.de/gulls/m_phi. ... llis%201cy)
much white in coverts and a complete patterned gc-row is possible in michahellis as are the halfmoonlike notches in tertials.

but it has the face (dark and streaky) and the freshness of a lesser black-back. so i guess it is rather a graellsii, like the other gulls in the pic. no moulted scaps would be enourmously late for a spanish mich. but i've seen 1 atlantis on lanzarote being complete juvenile at the end of august last year.

best,

lou

Re: YLG or HG

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:01 pm
by totoguti
Hi all:
Remember that when we are speaking about "mich" we are thinking in michahellis michahellis usually, but our North and NW "Lusies" are as I Always say "Fifty herring fifty graellsii" ; -)
And they moult one month later than "mich" more or less.
Look at the attached bird ringed in Galicia (NW Spain) it has a very dark face, small and delicate body.... resembling fuscus. Another birds resembles herrings.
There are 3 ringed "lusi" birds sighted in central Spain in 2011-12 (first inland sightings in Spain....).
I think "Lusi" is another good option, but....
All the best.
Antonio.
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Re: YLG or HG

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:33 pm
by paseriformes
Thank you all for your opinions.
I am agree with Antonio that cam be a Lusitanicus.
Any more comments are welcome.
Delfín

Re: YLG or HG

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:37 pm
by Rui_Caratão
Another of those presumed late "Lusies" from this week in Lisbon, although the tertial pattern is new to me, I have seen plain edges reaching the tertials, notched ones, but never this pattern...

best regards,
Rui

Re: YLG or HG

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 9:48 pm
by JanJ
Hi Delfín.

At first sight it looks like a Herring, but a slender - somewhat long-winged one. Rather unmarked underparts suggest other than Herring, altough a few Herring´s can show sutch unmarked underparts. So, what about lusitanius Yellow-legged?

JanJ