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Larus Sp?

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:19 pm
by ahuilbeyi
I take this photo from Samsun- TURKEY , 17.02.2013. I want get your opinion about this gull , thanks.

Re: Larus Sp?

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:48 pm
by Theo Muusse
I think a 2nd winter male michahellis.

Theo

Re: Larus Sp?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:11 pm
by JanJ
Theo Muusse wrote:I think a 2nd winter male michahellis.

Theo
My thoughts as well.

JanJ

Re: Larus Sp?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:57 pm
by lou bertalan
i don't think so. even though a very small p10 tongue, no mirror and well marked underwings, the long bill, dark eye and small amount of grey coverts to me all point towards caspian gull. if bill is yellow in 2nd alternate michahellis it readily gets vivid yellow. this one is long and pale yellow with the quite typical all dark tip. the very fine parallel transversal bands on rectrices (basal of tail band) also are not this regular in michahellis. a well marked/dark male cachinnans for me.
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=251412

Re: Larus Sp?

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:53 pm
by Theo Muusse
As you wish.
The dark inner primaries and the streaking on neck, breast and head were my pointers.

Theo

Re: Larus Sp?

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:08 am
by adriaens
Difficult bird, this.
Some michahellis can certainly resemble it:

Re: Larus Sp?

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:58 pm
by ahuilbeyi
thank you very much :)