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Help id.
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:47 pm
by Giuseppe Fiorella
Hi,
i photographed this gull in Barletta (BT- Southern Italy) the 09 of March 2013

Can you help me for a correct identification?
Thank you.
Giuseppe
Re: Help id.
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:46 pm
by Theo Muusse
3rd winter lesser black-backed gull, possibly intermedius.
Theo
Re: Help id.
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:01 am
by Giuseppe Fiorella
Thanks for the reply, Theo.
Just another question: the state of moult is ok for this time?
Thanks.
Giuseppe
Re: Help id.
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:44 pm
by Theo Muusse
I am interested to see an open wing to find out if feathers are missing or broken....
Theo
Re: Help id.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:07 pm
by Giuseppe Fiorella
Below two pictures taken on 09/02/2013
Re: Help id.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:13 pm
by Giuseppe Fiorella
These were taken on 16/02/2013
Re: Help id.
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:16 pm
by Giuseppe Fiorella
And this today
Thanks again for the help.
Giuseppe
Re: Help id.
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:02 am
by marsmuusse
Well well Giuseppe,
Very nice pictures this bird, nicely demonstrates late winter / early spring moult in LBBG. Well documented!
From ring recoveries we know moult in the inner primaries, in 3CY spring birds, can be found in all subspecies: of course fuscus and heuglini, but also intermedius and even graellsii (at least NW European continental graellsii).
Example birds can be found on ORG:
fuscus:
http://www.israel.gull-research.org/fus ... rch11.html
heuglini:
http://gull-research.org/heuglini/heug3 ... rch06.html
intermedius:
http://www.gull-research.org/lbbg3cya/svs810679x.htm
graellsii:
http://www.gull-research.org/lbbg3cya/5366282.htm
Upperpart grey tone suggests this is not nominate fuscus.
Something different: Do you have ringed LBBG in your region as well?
Mars