Of course in picutre ID fus.jpg theres a caspian behind the first bird
![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
In second bird dark underwing, entire dark primaries, covers pattern looks like LBBG - i I thought that bit advanced moult could point for western bird.
Overall im not be persistent and im open for id-guidelines
![Razz :P](./images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)
Cheers
Michal