1st winter gull Denmark

[RSNaarhus]

This 1st winter Herring Gull-type was photographed By Tim Hesselballe Hansen in Fredericia, Denmark 10/10-2011.

He saw it while driving and had a feeling, that it was probably a Caspian og Yellow-legged Gull based on the tail-pattern.

He quicky realized that it was neither though when seing it with his bins and took some photos of the bird.

However the tailpattern etc looks funny for a pure Herring Gull.

Is this within the variation of Herring would you think?

Best wishes Rune Sø Neergaard

[JanJ]

Yes Rune - it is.

Jan

[Ronald Klein]

HG? No, never my opinion.
Eye mask, bill shape, tail pattern, tertials etc. pp.
I think all features are good for a identification as michahellis.

[JanJ]

HG? No, never my opinion.
Eye mask, bill shape, tail pattern, tertials etc. pp.
I think all features are good for a identification as michahellis.

Hi Ronald.

I didn´t say it was a Herring ( - only that Herring could show a similar tail pattern (http://www.helsinki.fi/~rauste/juvmic/argtail/)
However, while some features mentioned suggest michahellis - the inner primary pattern does not look good for michahellis.

Cheers

Jan

[Theo Muusse]

Ver y limited moult in scaps and pattern of gc also point to herring...

Theo